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  Topic Started By:  Super G    On:  Thu 15th September, 2005 at 07:17
Super G
Member Since: 2004
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Cumbria
#1  APC level 1  15 Sep '05 at 07:17
Has anyone done the APC level one??
Want to do it this season but don't really know much about it. Any info would be great, not really a lot of info on snowsport scotland site. Course content, what people do for accomodation and how easy/difficult it is to pass??
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waitingforwinter
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#2  Re: APC level 1  15 Sep '05 at 08:32
Have done the first APC course but can't remember if the rating goes 2 then 1 like the BASI system or 1 then 2 like normal people. If it is the more advanced course you want to know about I can't really help but if you want to know about the first one you do then I can try to help!
Genius is an infinite ability to take pain
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Molly83
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scotland
#3  Re: APC level 1  15 Sep '05 at 08:52
when i was away APC folk stayed in the same hotel as BASI folk in Tignes, can't mind the name of it though, and more than half the folk failed
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Molly83
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scotland
#4  Re: APC level 1  15 Sep '05 at 08:55
if you've raced then you won't have much bother, was generally the people who were decent skiers but hadn't raced before, who failed
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waitingforwinter
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#5  Re: APC level 1  15 Sep '05 at 09:02
Like any assessed cours the pass rate varies massively from group to group - lots of people turn up having scraped through a BASI 3 and then are suprised when they fail. I think it is a pretty big step up from BASI 3. I have seen plenty of people pass grade 3 but then be well below the standard for the APC. Rumour has it that the level needed to pass was raised last year too (according to a BASI trainer who sat in on a meeting where they looked through the videos of previous passees and decided it needed to be higher).

On the other hand it is a great course - I learned loads about my skiing and loads of drills and techniques I had not heard or thought of. If you have the money and can afford it have a go - even if you fail you will definitely learn something.

A couple of thoughts though:

The level is pretty high - a lot of people fail on not being able to carve properly - basically because a huge number of people out there think they can carve when they really aren't!

It is well worth getting a bit of race experience in first and perhaps some training. You can pass without it - I did just- but it would have been far less stressful and a lot easier if I had spent a bit more time in the gates first.

If you do some race training try to get some experience on setting courses too - you don't get much chance to practice on the course and they will fail you if your setting is crap.
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Molly83
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scotland
#6  Re: APC level 1  15 Sep '05 at 09:07
and make sure you're reasonably fit or you'll be f ucked!!
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waitingforwinter
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#7  Re: APC level 1  15 Sep '05 at 09:20
And don't turn up on a pair of twin tips!

Best to take some race skis. You have to ski slalom and GS so I would advise a pair of slalom skis - it is easier to do long turns on a pair of slalom skis than short turns on a pair of GS skis.
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Jack
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#8  Re: APC level 1  15 Sep '05 at 11:26
Yeh the standard is fairly high...2/10 passed the wk I did it, the course is probably at least as tough as the grade 2 technical. If you skid at all you`ve nae chance, you must have a good wide stance and leave nice clean 'railtracks' in the snow. I was chuffed to get it but I`ve done a wee bit of racing. Give snowsport scotland a phone...

There is a basi option now too i think
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Super G
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Cumbria
#9  Re: APC level 1  15 Sep '05 at 11:50
I don't know what to do now! My general skiing is not grade 2 standard yet, but my carving is definatly my strongest skiing technique, no issues with my grade 3 on that at all, its variable I struggle with. I have slalom skis and gs skis and have done some race training and doing some more in November. But don't want to turn up and make a fool of myself.
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Jack
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#10  Re: APC level 1  15 Sep '05 at 12:32
och give it a crack - its only a 1hr max resit anyway if you don`t nail it this time...Certainly a wide range of abilities when I did it so don`t worry on that score. Not a bad course all in all - very race focussed unsuprisingly
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Super G
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Cumbria
#11  Re: APC level 1  16 Sep '05 at 06:12

Originally posted by Jack

och give it a crack - its only a 1hr max resit anyway if you don`t nail it this time...Certainly a wide range of abilities when I did it so don`t worry on that score. Not a bad course all in all - very race focussed unsuprisingly

Ok.......I'm going to do it!!
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Jack
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#12  Re: APC level 1  16 Sep '05 at 09:04
Good lad!!
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mista
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The sticks
#13  Re: APC level 1  16 Sep '05 at 09:24

Originally posted by Jack

Good lad...

...y
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Super G
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Cumbria
#14  Re: APC level 1  16 Sep '05 at 11:21

Originally posted by mista

Originally posted by Jack

Good lad...

...y

Thankyou Mista
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Jack
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#15  Re: APC level 1  16 Sep '05 at 14:20
Apologies!
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